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Bonjour.
Today is Monday, May 27. In case this newsletter is too longβ¦one of the weirdest and funniest things Iβve discovered (thanks to Connor Ratliff) is here, an update to a Peabody Award-winning piece here, a series that is way more fun than I thought itβd be (and you really shouldnβt miss it) here.
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Jess Parks
Jess Parks is an LA-based feature sound mixer and creator behind the podcast I Seduce The Dragon.
In ten words or less, describe I Seduce The Dragon.
Hilarious, immersive storytelling with unbeatable chemistry and high production value.
How did you meet everyone on the cast? Youβre such a rag-tag group but have amazing chemistry! You can really tell in the audio that youβre all friends outside of the game.
I could fangirl over these players forever! Some hadnβt even met when we kicked off, but Iβve got a bit of a talent for assembling a great team and I love to connect people. We didn't even plan a podcast at first β just wanted to have a blast with a fun crew.Β Watching these friendships grow beyond the game? Pure magic.
Iβve known Flanders the longest; we met over a decade ago when she was a bartender at my favorite local dive, just one of her fascinating talents among blacksmithing, arm wrestling, homesteading, jiu jitzu, and, oh yes, sheβs a lawyer.Β At a dinner party with Flanders, I met Ryan, who is one of the coolest, most vibrant and fun people on the planet.Β Meeting her inspired me to assemble the game, and I began considering who else would compliment the personalities we already had.
I brought in Dana, a colleague from my days as a post executive at Sony Pictures, adding her sweet enthusiasm and whimsical naughtiness to the mix (plus I just love her laugh).Β And I snagged Cristina, who I met through D&D in 2020, for her appetite for deeper story, complex character exploration, and all that delicious emotional conflict.Β
What inspired you to get into podcasting after working in Hollywood audio production? How has it differed from what you were used to?
Hollywood audio post production is still my life and there is a transferable set of skills, certainly, when it comes to editing and mixing for an immersive experience.Β But in feature sound we donβt control the narrative or pacing, and I love the challenge of carving out the story for the podcast.Β I turn three hours of free-flowing, improvised chaos (like dailies, for those in the biz) into a seamless, action-packed, hour-long narrative thatβs truly a delightful listen where everyone sounds smart, funny, and great at D&D!Β
Whatβs your favorite sound effect or sound design moment from the first season of I Seduce the Dragon?
There is a weretiger moment coming in Episode 11 that is such a thrilling confluence of sound design, music and dramatic narrative, it gives me goosebumps.Β I canβt wait to release it.Β
Whatβs your favorite podcast that everyone already knows about?
Dungeons & Daddies is a must-listen in the D&D genre and one of my biggest inspirations for our show.Β The cast are incredibly funny people in very individual and complementary ways, it feels as much like hanging out with your funniest friends as listening to a well-produced show. I had only just begun to get interested in D&D when I started listening to them, and theyβre a big part of why Iβve grown to love the game now.Β
Whatβs your favorite podcast that not enough people know about?
If you havenβt heard Murder She Rolled, Iβm sorry but youβre blowing it. Β Itβs a pretty new D&D podcast starring Alan Seawright, creator of Cinema Therapy. Their DM is crazy talented, and the characters are diverse and hilarious.Β Dive in now and thank me later.
Anything I didnβt ask that youβd like to share?
If youβre new to D&D, weβve got you - start with our βClippyβs Versionβ of the first couple episodes. Theyβre the same full adventure, but include helpful (and snarky) explainers to help you get the hang of it!
π¨If u only have time for 1 thingπ¨
When I interview podcasters, I ask them to give me a podcast recommendation. Iβm always in search of something amazing Iβve never heard of. It happens only sometimes, and it did when I was talking to Connor Ratliff of Tiny Dinos (for an interview that I havenβt published yet.) Connor recommended A Place Upstate and I went straight to it and it was one of the weirdest, funniest things I have ever heard. Robert and Cyrus Cozy (Noah Forman and Michael Antonucci) report the local goings-on from their cozy upstate New York cabin with cozy tips so you can be as cozy as they are. Itβs a mix between Garrison Keillorβs Lake Wobegon Days and the βSchweddy Ballsβ SNL sketch featuring Ana Gasteyer and Molly Shannon thatβs making fun of NPR. One of the things that makes this podcast so perfectly made, not just funny, is how it understands the medium enough to play on it. The pauses and pacing are perfectly awkward. The sound is playful, tooβ music is its own character that dramatizes topics like bird watching. Jo Firestone is on the first episode, and if you like her comedy then this show will be your favorite show of all time and you, like me, will be nervous because this is a podcast that seems to have ended. Please Cozys, can we have some more? I listened to a bunch of episodes at once and it sort of warped my brainβI started thinking everything I heard was a parody of itself and funny, from the podcast White Devil to a SKYRIZI commercial. I have already recommended this show to people who got back to me immediately saying it was the best thing theyβve listened to in a long time. I got so much feedback about how everyone loved my Tiny Dinos recommendation last week. If that was you, trust me (and Connor) and try A Place Upstate now. You will lose your mind. (They also have the best podcast website Iβve ever seen.)
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β¨For Lifehacker, I declared the 12 of the Best Podcasts of 2024 (So Far).
β¨The Western Sound team is hosting a seriesβSeminars on Creativity and Craft, hosted by three of the mostΒ creative people working in audio: Kelly McEvers, Jad Abumrad and Avery Trufelman. The seminars are geared toward podcast producers and anyone working in a creative field. The goal is to inspire attendees to create their own groundbreaking work, find their next dream project, turn setbacks into inspiration, and navigate tough times in our industry. They're all in June and held over Zoom. As a Podcast the Newsletter reader YOU get a 15% discountΒ code:Β PODN15, and can sign upΒ here.
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ποΈOn 99% Invisible Roman Mars is bookclubbing Robert Caroβs 1,200 page book The Power Broker, a biography of Robert Moses, the guy responsible for so much of the park, highway, bridge, playground, housing, tunnel, beach, zoo, etc formation of New York City. The book is really about power, how Robert Moses got it (without ever being an elected official) and kept it and was able to be one of the influential people in history. Every month this year heβs going over 100 pages with people like Jamelle Bouie and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. If this doesnβt sound fun, youβre wrong. Roman kicks things off with Conan OβBrien, whose level of obsession with Robert Caro rivals my nephewβs obsession with Minecraft. Robert Caroβs interview in this series was one of the best episode Iβve heard in months. Caro sounds like a guy who needs his own 1200 page biography. Heβs fascinating, itβs like heβs from another time and space. Listen to the Conan episode here, the Caro one here.Β
ποΈIβm assuming youβve listened to Erica Heilmanβs Finn and the Bell, a masterpiece she made for her podcast Rumblestrip. It won a lot of things, including a Peabody. If you havenβt listened to it, go do it now. Then listen to the newest Rumblestrip episode, Tara. Erica checks in on Tara, Finnβs mother, at Finnβs memorial in the Hardwick Vermont forest. Listen Erica is the last kind of person that would want to, or even utter the words βmake content go viralβ so I hope this doesnβt offend her but thatβs what The Finn and the Bell kind of was in a small circle of podcast nerds. Everyone who listened had a reaction to it. I listen to it every so often and experience all sorts of new feelings. My chest tightens just thinking about Tara running into the snow after her sonβs suicide to feel everything in the universe happening at once. Tara received letters addressed to βFinnβs Mom, Hardwick.β Thatβs how small Hardwick is. It worked. In case you were wondering, Finnβs death doesnβt get easier or less painful and it doesnβt make any more sense, and it doesnβt have to. Listen here.
ποΈThe Atlantic always putting really thoughtful, sweeping, fresh series up on their feed. The series subjects are broadβhow to keep time, how to talk to people. But the episodes tucked inside are nuanced, specific, and unique. The newest iteration of the show is called How to Know Whatβs Real and it asks what real life is now that the internet and AI are integrated into so much that we do. In
, Devin wrote about the first episode βHow to Know Whoβs Real,β but I want to recommend episode two βHow to Live in a Digital City,β which lets us imagine our identities if the internet, a place that has the scale of the city and the intimacy of the small town, was a real place. How do we build community in a digital space? How does the infrastructure of this city affect our cultural code and how we interact? It introduced me to the concept of the infinite stranger, those people in your life who are both intimate and anonymous. (The guy you see on the subway every morning at precicely 8:18am.) This was the episode that I had to listen to several times. Listen here.ποΈWhen NPR laid off Yowei Shaw (Invisibilia,) she went to a very dark place and she talks about it on the first episode of her new show Proxy. Things didnβt end there, she worked tirelessly on a piece about rejection and getting laid off for a huge unnamed podcast that also got killed. Thatβs what broke her, when the darkest place got darker. Thatβs not what Proxy is about, really. On Proxy, Yowei connects people going through stuff with proxiesβother people who have shared experience or can offer valuable advice. Itβs not advice or therapy, itβs something in its own category. Itβs learning how to get laid off better by talking from other people who have been there. This feels like obvious magic to me. Isnβt that what community and connection and even storytelling is for? Yowei is magical, too. Sheβs proven herself. And now sheβs picking herself back up by turning her pain into something thatβs helpful. In episodes two and three we get to hear the story that got killed and an interview with an HR person, who seems like a real human, and listening to her actually made me feel really sad for HR people. I know so many people who have been laid off lately, send this to them! Itβs healing. But also beautiful for what itβs doing and for how itβs built and for what it sounds like. Podcast art by Good Tape, woo hoo! Listen here.
ποΈI enjoyed Who shat on the floor at my wedding, it was smart, original, and fun, and unlike other things I hear. Thatβs my favorite kind of thing to hear. But I always get nervous when someone tries to do it again, and they are, with a new season called Who Shat: The Case of the Tiny Suit/Case, tracking down the person who left a suitcase (thatβs not actually so tiny, turns out) and a literally tiny three-piece corduroy suit hanging on someoneβs veranda in the Swedish backwoods. Both stories involve people leaving something and a combination of silliness and seriousness, and that combination is my favorite. Listen here.
ποΈOn Eurovangelists, Jeremy Bent, Oscar Montoya, and Dimitry PompΓ©e have been covering the Eurovision Song Contest in colorful detail, absolutely delighting people who are into Eurovision as much as they are, and converting people to Eurovision who arenβt already. With the 2024 competition finale having aired (Dimitry was there IRL) comes the Eurovangelists recap, where they award performances for fun things like best: host, bit, use of digital screens, choreography, and the Slavic English Award for Lyrical Excellence. I did not watch Eurovision technically but I followed along with this show and online. If you havenβt absorbed a single thing you might want to watch the Eurovision finale first. Listen here.
ποΈThis year, for Stonewallβs 55th Anniversary, Making Gay History is re-releasing their fifth season, a look inside the 1969 Stonewall Uprising from the people who were actually there. Itβs a must-listen for podcast lovers, history lovers, love lovers. There will also be a bonus episode interview with June Thomas (I love Juneβ¦did you know she has an upcoming book on lesbian spaces, A Place of Our Own, coming outβ¦ohhhhβ¦tomorrow?) Eric will also be on a panel for a live recording of Slateβs Slow Burn at this yearβs Tribeca Film Festival. Listen to the Stonewall series here.
ποΈIn LA, a city where pedestrians get weird looks for walking (this always happens to me when I try to walk there anyway) Allan McLeod is going on walks of all kinds with people and letting us in on the conversations they have, for his new podcast Walkinβ About. When you think about it there are all kinds of walks! Dog ones, power ones, drunk ones, cemetery ones, night ones, hikes! The walks guide the conversations (which are refreshingly normal but funny) and celebrate the different reasons we walk anywhere and with anyone. I love audio diaries or anytime someone does something literally anything different than sitting at a mic in a studio. On Janet Varneyβs episode I learned what a Kula cloth is, episode two was with Mike Mitchell. Listen here.
ποΈOffline is a really well-done show about the internet, John Favreau and Max Fisherβs interviews always surprise and delight me. There are hard-hitting ones, but it also swings to silly sometimes. For their movie club they watch movies and talks about what they got right and wrong about the internet, and how the movie would be different if it took place today. Their look at Youβve Got Mail did a great job capturing a very narrow window of the internetβs history when we would actually get excited to hear that βweβve got mail.β The guests are Kendra James and Jon Lovett. Kendra is funny and fascinating, and I find Jon Lovett hilarious. I think you could throw him on any podcast with zero seconds notice and heβd be a great guest. Listen here.
ποΈThe entrepreneurial space in podcasts is usually pretty US-leaning, with stories highlighting American entrepreneurs. Grit & Growth (note: theyβre a client!) will give you all a different view! TheΒ Stanford SeedΒ podcast hooks up some of the greatest minds at Stanford with African and South Asian entrepreneurs in rapidly developing markets to see how they can empower them to succeed. The mixture of data-rich analysis and storytelling makes Grit & Growth so very different from the business shows that are going to the same people with the same problems. Listen here.
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π¦ From the Archives π¦
[From August 10, 2020] This episode of VENT Documentaries makes you feel like you are swimming inside a teenage girlβs brain. Itβs the first episode of the new season, which focuses on love, and gives the mic to Hibak. (Each episode of the show offers a story from a young person in one London Borough.) Hearing Hibak swoon and obsess over boys is so authentic I felt like I was her 16-year-old friend sharing secrets with her at the lunch table. The stories on VENT are always great, for the voices and the excellent sound production, which takes playful risks to transport you to a new place. I can remember when crushes and getting dumped and flirting felt like the most important thing on earth, and VENT gives respect to these real feelings. Each moment is full of sounds that are deliberate and powerful. I listened to the last few minutes of the Isaiah episode a few times.
A Place Upstate's website literally transported me through time