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Today is Monday, July 15. I want to live in this series, this and this were made for me and me only, a comedian I adore has a new show here, and if you have time for one thing make it this.
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Annanda Barclay and Keisha McKenzie
Annanda Barclay is an end of life planner, chaplain, and moral injury researcher in the Bay Area, California. Keisha McKenzie is a technical communicator and narrative strategist based in Maryland.
They are co-hosts of Moral Repair: A Black Exploration of Tech, a series about the innovations that make our world, disrupt our societies, and how we can repair the damage.
Fill in the blank: You will like Moral Repair if you like _______.
Cookouts, Kiki’s, Spilling the Tech Tea, Technology, Philosophy & Spirituality, Black Thought, Hip hop, Gil Scott Heron
You are two-timed Ambies nominated, congratulations!! What a testimony to your amazing work. How did this recognition inform and motivate you?
Annanda: It was an invitation to continue to pursue the community education and empowerment project that is this podcast. I’m motivated by imagining new tangible futures with all people and technology, particularly from underrepresented perspectives and people.
How do your different personal and professional backgrounds complement each other?
Keisha: I was raised in the humanities so I think about tech through the lens of people and the stories we tell each other—film, especially. I learned to understand myself through the stories of others and I think I bring that sensibility to the show and to the stories guests tell us.
Annanda: As a clinically trained chaplain, my research and focus is on moral injury and repair in STEM students and professionals. As an End of Life Planner, my work centers on what it means for my clients to have a meaningful life all the way to the end, including how to care for loved ones after death. Both grapple with questions of moral distress, injury, and repair. I simply adore being in the outdoors and caring for the planet and others, this show is an offering of care.
Okay so you know a lot about tech, something that is keeping a lot of people….especially creative people…up at night. What keeps YOU up at night?
Annanda: Unregulated AI, end stage capitalism, and the amount of unhappiness in the world. Happiness, joy, is free, and can be as simple as smiling at a bird in the sky, or recalling a fond memory.
If you could make another podcast, don’t worry about the logistics or whether or not anyone will like it, what would it be? Your budget is $1M.
Annanda: This one. Life’s too short to not do what I want to do.
Moral Repair explores the intersection of technology and spirituality with a focus on showcasing practical wisdom from the African continent and diaspora. What is the motivation behind highlighting these connections?
Annanda: The motivation behind this is to shift the geography of reason from mainstream representation of wisdom and knowledge as it relates to technology. Too few voices from the African continent and diaspora are taken just as seriously as dominant tech voices, which have little to no representation of Black people. It makes no sense that a narrow representation of the human population can speak to the benefits or perils of technology for all people. We assume their words, guidance, and understanding is practically law. Why? They live such different lives from most people on the planet who come from such different cultures and life experiences.
What is one thing you learned from the first season and wanted to apply to the second season?
Annanda: 35 to 30 minute episodes are gold. Being able to connect our audience with a rich story is worth the hours upon hours on the backend for the 35 minutes for our listeners.
What’s a podcast you love that everyone already knows about?
Annanda: The Read. I rarely follow gossip and pop culture so it catches me up on everything while keeping me laughing, shocked, and just normalizing a full range of human emotions.
Keisha: I still listen to Ramit Sethi’s I Will Teach You To Be Rich. It’s so interesting to hear how other families use money to make the lives they want.
What’s a podcast you love that not enough people know about?
Keisha: I don’t know if enough people know about the Translash Podcast from Imara Jones? She’s an incredible journalist, storyteller, and advocate for trans people. Get into it!
Annanda: All My Relations. It’s a podcast about American Indian/Native American culture, celebration, and wisdom. Artist, show creator and host Matika Wilbur is laughing constantly and it brings me great joy to listen and laugh alongside her while I shut up and learn.
What brings you joy?
Annanda: Nature. The smiles on the faces of those I love and care about. Serving others. Learning. Receiving in a non-transactional way. Good food. Silence. Amazing live music. Honey Bees. Being alive… most days.
What do you do to take care of yourself?
Annanda: Sleep. Work outside in my backyard. Beekeep. Camp. Backpack. Hang with dear ones. I’m learning the power of a good affordable spa.
What do you wish someone told you about podcasting before you did it?
Annanda: How much time it actually takes to execute well.
Are there too many podcasts?
Keisha: No! But not everyone has the resources or community they might need to last in the industry. It takes a lot of work and deep support to make quality audio, and I’m so grateful for our production team and the folks at PRX for getting us started.
Annanda: There aren’t too many podcasts. The market is so saturated when it comes to finding a podcast of interest, or stand out as a podcast. I would love to be surprised to enjoy a podcast that I might not usually listen too, I think experience is a lost gem. There’s just so many choices and it’s hard to tell which podcast is worthy of my time and attention.
What should I have asked you but didn’t?
Annanda: The red or the blue pill and why?
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I finally finished Slow Burn’s ninth season on the Briggs Initiative, hosted by Christina Cauterucci. Do you remember being young and not quite understanding certain details in history and being amazed that your parents did? It’s obviously because they lived through it. Slow Burn does this thing that makes you feel like you lived through historical events even if you didn’t. It always does this, this season was no exception. Christina sets this tight scene of San Francisco in the 70s, introducing us to characters in queer history—some you know, some you don’t. It’s everything to understand the climate that allowed this to happen and all the hard work that went into stopping it, which now seems almost impossible. Or that Briggs didn’t passed based on a fluke, a technicality. A very close call. And the likelihood and real fear that it will all happen again. Every episode is a fascinating subplot that will make you feel like you were just there, in the 70s, with Harvey Milk, Richard Pryor, and Tom Ammiano, a former California legislator who later became famous for telling Arnold Schwarzenegger to “kiss my gay ass.” There is an anecdote about anti Briggs advocate David Mixner having to meet Reagan advisors in a Denny’s who showed up wearing sunglasses and raincoats that made me laugh out loud. David died last March, right after recording his interview, which we are lucky to have had him for. David lost so many of his friends to AIDS years ago. This series is precious and could not be a more important listen.
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🎙️On Dissect, Cole Cuchna and Charles Holmes are doing another round of Last Song Standing, where they go through an artists’ entire catalogue album by album to determine the best song of the bunch. Season one was Kendrick (I’m not telling you which song won) and season two is tacking OutKast. I can’t remember the last time I was so excited for a new season of something. What makes the perfect OutKast song perfect, and do we need to choose the song that’s technically perfect or the song that’s a perfect pop song? Cole and Charles quiz each other about the album which was a nice warm up to the really interesting stuff—going through the songs (which bring us back to the early 2000s—AM IN IN MY 1988 VOLKSWAGEN CABRIOLET DRIVING TO HIGH SCHOOL?,) discuss Big Boi tracks vs André 3000 tracks, what makes this sound urgent, fierce and adventurous and at the time felt like something our ears had never experienced before. The bridal chorus is on the hook of Ms. Jackson? I want to live in this series. Listen here.
🎙️I have been a fan of Sofie Hagen’s comedy for a long time. I discovered her on The Guilty Feminist and enjoyed her show Bad People. I am a new fan of the co-host on her new show, Help Hole, Abby Wambaugh, who…I learned via Sofie was unavailable for interview because she was in The Iron Age. On Help Hole, they read self-help books and pass on the wisdom they absorb. Sofie and Abby love self-help books. (In fact, in one of the episodes they quote someone who says something like, “what’s wrong with wanting to help yourself?”) These episodes are earnest reviews of the books, and Sofie and Abby urge you to go out and buy them. They are open about how these books have changed the way they operate. They are insanely entertaining and perfect together. You will like this show if you like funny, smart women, and you will like this show if you like self-help, because they are truly flinging life hacks around like I did as the flower girl at my aunt’s wedding in 1987. Listen here.
🎙️What happens to your belief system when you’re a life-long conservative but your kids survive a school shooting? Where do you stand? What would it take for you to change your mind? Supermajority is Embedded’s four-part piece that follows three Tennessee moms bonded by the fact that they found themselves in this exact situation as they learn how to become pop-up activists and head to their state legislature to make a change that’s quite against the grain in their state. This story is smart and compelling, full of incredible tape and unexpected twists and turns, and I really felt like I wanted to stand up and applaud these women. You get a good lesson on the confounding things happening in Tennessee’s state legislature, the power of regular voters and constituents, the importance of state level politics, and what happens to democracy when in the Senate, one party has a supermajority. Start here.
🎙️Land of the Giants launched a new season on Disney and how it went from a small animation studio to one of the largest companies in the world. (I used to answer that question with “it was all started by a mouse” but I guess it’s more complicated that that?) Episode one talks about how Michael Eisner was able to turn things around and reignite the magic that Walt had sparked years ago (a Newsweek title called him “More Walt Than Walt.”) He didn’t want to make a fortune, he wanted to make something magical. Magic first, profit later. (I hope this works with my company, which I named after Tinker Bell, because I’m more into magic-first thinking. That should make everyone on my team nervous, but I know it doesn’t.) The episode also addresses how Michael Eisner’s focus on TV created an engine for the entire company, something that worked for a long time (I guess I have to thank Hannah Montana for something) but doesn’t anymore. Disney is struggling, the fans can feel it every time they have to use the Genie app to pay $100 to go on Space Mountain with their families. I’m taking notes on this season, shoot it into my veins, yummy yummy gimme gimme. Listen here.
🎙️RELATED I have been binging episodes of Bippity Boppity Business, the only business podcast I will listen to. (I mean it.) Rita Richa is sharing really smart business stories inspired by Disney magic. Could there be a podcast more Tink-y than that? Nobody comes close to using storytelling and magic to immerse people into their brand experience like Disney does. Hate Disney all you want, they know what the fuck they’re doing. Rita is my business-whisperer. Episodes feel like they were made just for me…why the customer is the hero of your brand story, how Disney uses psychology to create the happiest place on earth (Mickey’s ten commandments,) 10 business storytelling tips inspired by the movie Lilo and Stitch, and a crash course on something called the Storybrand Framework using a rebrand of Hades from the movie Hercules as an example. Rita’s goal is that by episode 100 she gets to see the Cinderella suite at the top of the castle in Walt Disney World. Mine is to be on this show! Can we start a petition? Listen here.
🎙️We place way too much trust in memories. They’re fragile. I don’t really trust mine, or anyone’s. Especially after listening to Tortoise Media’s latest investigative series, Dangerous Memories, about a group of young women who sought out a ‘teacher of personal development’ who ended up being a manipulative monster set on severing contact and relationships between her students and their families, even their own identities, and destroying their lives. It seems like a unique kind of evil, because it was all…for what? Not sex, not money. Dangerous Memories asks: what was this healer doing and why ? And why were these young women listening to her? This is a strange one, much like the wildly popular Sweet Bobby, also from Tortoise, that will make you wonder about people and power and evil that lurks all around us in plain sight. There is a scene of one of the young, brainwashed women that is burned in my brain so much I had to email Tortoise and ask them to find it for me, so here you go (thanks, Gary!):
Then… There was the time Lee found her in a vest, covered in sweat, attacking her best sofa cushions with a cricket bat…
Lee: Everything she did was quite delicate and suddenly she was kind of beating the crap out of the sofa … she just kind of went, Oh, it's just, um, it's just a technique to get anger out before you paint.
🎙️To celebrate the 4th of July The Constant ran a fun and fascinating episode about our National Anthem—the history you do know with lots of stuff you don’t, or may not have thought about too much. Originally called “The Defense of Fort M’Henry,” it includes a verse that has some explaining to do and ends like this: No refuge could save the hireling and slave / From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave / And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave / O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave. But this episode isn’t just just history—it’s a fun, musical romp around all the songs that almost became our National Anthems, the ones that definitely should have and shouldn’t have. (MY VOTE has alllllways been for “Golden Dreams,” from EPCOT’s American Adventure, and if you know what I’m talking about let me know and I will kiss you on the mouth.) Also featured: why it’s so goddam hard to sing and the people who have really screwed up at National events. I haven’t written about The Constant in awhile so I will repeat: Mark Chrisler storytells like the most animated, theatrical, funny, curious, and engaging history professor you could ever imagine. Listen here.
🎙️Where were you on March 27th, 2024? I was reading the transcript to Elon Musk’s deposition, outlining a defamation lawsuit filed by Ben Brody, who Musk falsely tweeted that he suspected Ben was a disguised federal agent in a “false flag” situation. Elon and his lawyer tried to retroactively make the deposition confidential, but get out your popcorn, they didn’t. I know what Wil Williams (The Court Reporter) and Anne (Alex Spiro) of Hug House were doing on March 27, 2024, they were reading it, too. (It is hilarious.) They sprang into action, using the transcript as a script to a reenactment/reaction of the deposition to create The Deposition, with one mission for the actors involved: Play your parts as seriously as you can until you absolutely cannot. You hear all of the character breaks, laughs, and incredulity the actors experience while reading. Join them for four episodes, plus a full mastercut of every individual episode stitched together for those who want to experience it the way it was given, more or less. Listen here.
🎙️Wild Card is such a fun game show—Rachel Martin asks listeners to choose cards with questions about life's biggest questions and answer them. Now, there are two people I can think of whom I will frequently search for them in my pod-catcher to make sure I’ve listened to everything they’ve ever said. One is Josh Gondelman and the other is Nikki Giovanni. Nikki Giovanni’s episode of Wild Card was joyous. This 81-year-old woman is a queer, brilliant/funny poet with a fascination of space and I could listen to her talk forever.
Nikki: I am Christian. Jesus might not come when you call but he always comes on time. I don’t go to church, but I like Jesus because he was an interesting guy.
Rachel: There are a lot of interesting guys, Nikki.
Nikki: No there aren’t.
She says so many wise things, including that life is a good idea. She wins the game (what an icon,) the prize is a trip in the memory time machine, a trip to revisit one moment from her past that she wouldn’t change even a little, that was perfect. I love this question just as much as I love the fact that Nikki refuses to answer it. “I go there quite a bit but it’s none of your business.” Listen here.
🎙️99% Invisible had an episode about an organ piece called ORGAN²/ASLSP, that is still playing in Halberstadt, Germany. It will take 639 years to finish. (ASLSP stands for “as slow as possible,” which is how composer John Cage meant for it to be played.) It was recently getting pretty exciting over there, in Germany, because the piece experienced a chord change, something that happens every year or so, and people flocked to witness it. The episode is about so much—the logistics of all this, (the organ is not your run-of-the-mill organ), why the organ is the perfect instrument for the project, the magic of sound, the fatal day of Halberstadt (when the modern twelve-note keyboard was invented, changing music forever) and the reason so many people want to listen to this piece, why the chord change makes people cry. That’s something I would have found ridiculous before I listened to this episode but I get it now. It’s chilling in the best way, isn’t it? That you could go and sit in this 13th century cloister and experience this thing that is connecting people for centuries. And that brings up a good point. Will the piece really finish? Will we still be around? Will climate change destroy the church? Will Gen-whatever lose interest? Listen here.
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📦 From the Archives 📦
[From August 24, 2020] The entire premise of Election Profit Makers is somewhat unusual—the whole show is based upon political prediction markets. Using predictit.org, hosts Starlee Kine, David Rees, and Jon Kimball bet money on things from as big as who will win the 2020 Presidential election to what words will be used in the debates. It’s always a somewhat madcap political conversation, with the hosts meandering to funny, barely related topics (like debating the best city skylines in the country) but there’s always interesting debate that has me laughing out loud. In an early episode, the brought on 12-year-old Beckett, the son of one of the host’s friends, who seems wise beyond his years. In following episodes, Starlee, David and Jon argue with Beckett and debate his political stances, holding him up as kind of the complete expert on the 2020 Presidential Election. I always want to know what Beckett thinks. And this week, EPM let Beckett kind of take over the feed, dropping episodes that feature Beckett’s reaction to the DNC. (Ed. note: this show is still running and currently covering the Biden campaign death watch.)