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Bonjour.
Today is Monday November 24, 2025. Lots of good stuff to dig into below.
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Why did the deer cross the road? To eat grain that was illegally set out by a real sicko poacher who happened to be, and hereās the real zinger, a former correction officer at the New Hampshire State Prison for men. Heās just one part of a ring of other current and former officers maniacally killing protected animals in NH. Thatās what Ron Arsenault, a Fish and Game warden, discovered. Heās the first voice you hear on Operation Night Cat, a collaboration with NHPRās investigative team, Document. (Known for their award-winning work on The Youth Development Center and The 13th Step, whose groundbreaking reporting was a finalist for The Pulitzer Prize in audio.) You realize quickly almost nothing could piss off someone like Ron more than poachers, he is an ethical hunter who really cares. So he follows a deer, finds the grain, which leads to this poaching ring, which ends up exposing a group of officers who arenāt just enjoying torturing animals. (And they sure are! There are GRAPHIC descriptions describing the videos these guys captured themselves of the torture. ]One of them calls one of the deer heās letting die slowly an asshole.) They also enjoy torturing the inmates under their care in the prison. Because as Ron says at the end of episode one, āif youāre abusing animals, are you also abusing humans?ā Operation Night Cat starts out as a story about poaching but is a cave that gets deeper and darker with every step. I was yelping listening to it on my walk. Full transparency, I am working on this show for Tink, and it has been almost overwhelming to think of all the overlap this show has with some of the best investigative reporting. Itās jaw-dropping, beautifully produced, and will take you from the woods of New Hampshire to inside the prison walls.
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āØTransistor gathered 2025 Black Friday deals for podcasters! [You can get $50 off a podcast therapy session, and itās a good gift if youāre shopping for a podcaster t his year.]
āØRSS.com launched a āfree local and nicheā hosting service for podcasts! Itās truly free podcasting hosting with a focus on niche creators ā but itās open to anyone, and there are more features on paid plans. But you can start now for free, and honestly? The free plan features will get you a lot of what youāll need!
āØYesterday, Arielle featured 5 fantasy podcasts for when you need to escape to another world in EarBuds.
āØI talked about an audience-borrowing strategy that turns strangers into listeners and a surprising way to reach new listeners without guesting or social media on Insider Secrets to a Top 100 Podcast with Courtney Elmer. (Courtney is THE BEST. She recently sent me an enormous box of Elmerās Chee-Wees.)
āØNeed something good to binge during holiday travel? NRP made a round-up for you with some really good stuff. (Most of it I have loved so much that I wrote about it, too.)
āØImmigrantly Media has launched a new app aimed at immigrant storytellers looking to connect with themselves more in the coming year through journaling prompts (text or audio!) and small tasks to feel more grounded. 20% off quarterly packaged until November 28th! Also keep an eye on the Immigrantly feed on Thursday for Saadiaās special Thanksgiving episode.
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BJ & Harmony Colangelo
BJ and Harmony Colangelo are writers and film analysts from Los Angeles by way of Cleveland, Ohio. Together they host This Ends at Prom.
Explain This Ends at Prom in ten words or less.
Examining the coming-of-age experience through teen girl cinema.
How is it different than other movie podcasts?
Movies made about or marketed toward teen girl audiences are seldom met with good-faith film analysis or criticism, despite how formative these works are for generations of people. Weāre not a nostalgia podcast that just cracks jokes about movies that people make fun of us for loving, but a show that genuinely looks to explore what messaging teenagers and young adults were fed through these movies, how it reflects the culture at the time it was released, and how they relate to our (and our guests) lives now that weāre adults and can look back at our teen years with clarity. Thereās been a lot of talk about āhealing your inner childā in the last few years, but folks forget that honoring your teenage self is part of that journey, and we try to do that through the lens of cinema.
How are you two different? How are you similar? What do you each bring to the table for the show?
BJ: I am far more neurotic than Harmony, so I handle a lot of the Type-A jobs like scheduling, updating social media, managing the Discord, making the episode graphics, and finding the articles we reference. Iāve also got the flavor of neurodivergence, that means Iām a walking IMDb, so Iām able to pull out a lot of weird facts at the drop of a hat. Iām also way more sensitive, which means Iām not allowed to read the comments anymore.
Harmony: Iām not as elegant or professional as BJ, so I handle more of the āmanual laborā of podcasting. Recording set-up and take-down, and editing the show, which takes more time than anything else we do. In general, Iām just more loosey-goosey than BJ is, which helps when my role on the show is that I donāt really āneedā to know anything since I usually havenāt seen the movie we are covering until we actually get to it. While This Ends At Prom is technically a movie review show, a historical context show, and a gay little show about our lives and feelings, I have always treated it as a comedy show. BJ is far more academic than I am.
But weāre both always going to commit to the bit if it kills us.
What was the inspiration for the show?
BJ: During the early quarantine era of the COVID-19 pandemic, when we had nothing better to do than watch movies, I showed Harmony ā10 Things I Hate About You,ā thinking that she would fall in love with it the same way I had as a pre-teen. Pretty quickly, she started pointing out flaws in the story that I had never noticed before because I have had rose-tinted nostalgia glasses on for 20+ years. The conversation we had after the movie was over lasted over an hour, and I immediately knew this was āsomething.ā Because Iām a writer and have decent connections with some publications, I pitched the idea to a womenās magazine (that shall remain nameless) about a monthly column where I would show Harmony a seminal film that she missed having been raised as a teen boy, and it was approved! Unfortunately, when we all realized that the ātwo weeks off from workā was going to be ā¦ a lot longer than that, the magazine could no longer afford the column, and so it was fair game for us to do whatever we wanted with it. We knew the idea was just too good, so we immediately started researching how to create an independent podcast.
Do each of you have your own personal favorite episodes?
Harmony: When Adam Carter Rehmeier told us that our episode on āDinner in Americaā was THE definitive text on his film, that set a pretty high bar to clear for all other episodes. Just thinking about how certain episodes make me feel, my favorites are probably for movies that Iām most passionate about, either having seen them before or getting the biggest surprise. Iād have to say āBaby Assassins,ā āPerfect Blue,ā āMermaids,ā āSorority Boys,ā āIce Princess,ā and the āHunger Gamesā movies because it might secretly be the most consistently great film franchise out there.
BJ: Nothing will ever top āDinner in Americaā for me, but Iām very proud of our more serious episodes like āWristcuttersā and āThe Fault in Our Stars.ā I also love the entirety of the āTwilightā saga because Harmony is so miserable the entire time, and itās hilarious how much of it you can hear in her voice.
Fill in the blank: you will like This Ends at Prom if you like______.
You will like This Ends at Prom if you like sleepovers with mouthy women and falling down Wikipedia rabbit holes at 3 am after drinking too much pop while listening to playlists you made in high school.
Whatās a podcast you love that not enough people know about?
Certified Forgotten with Matt Monagle and Matt Donato. They exclusively talk about films with 10 or fewer reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, ensuring that even films the majority of people have never seen (or heard of) are given their fair shake.
The world is hard. Why is something like This Ends at Prom important?
BJ: To be completely frank, the world hates women (especially teenage girls), hates gay people, hates poor people, and, especially right now, hates trans people. The fact that we are combining all of those perspectives to provide film analysis ā a famously male-dominated practice ā is essential, because no one else is doing it through this lens. Weāve found a way to use discussing a repeatedly dismissed subgenre as a vehicle to tackle larger issues and speak truth to power. Based on the private messages weāve received from listeners over the years ā¦ it has legitimately helped people make sense of the world, their identities, and their pasts.
Harmony: To paraphrase Kneecap, āEvery word spoken is a bullet,ā and I like to believe our aim is true. Whether people listen for entertainment, nostalgia, or because we are saying things that they scream to themselves in their cars, we are doing something right, and it matters to people. And we have always cared about people above all else.
Is there anything I didnāt ask you that you wanna say?
The podcasting landscape is dominated by celebrities these days, so supporting shows hosted and produced by people who are ā¦ not, means the absolute world.
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šWith The Observer, Tortoise Investigates (Tortoise just bought The Observer btw) is dropping an investigative series about freediving, a sport defined by one simple objective: to dive as deep as you can on one single breath. Lydia Gard, travel writer turned freediver, hosts Deep Water, a look into this extremeeeeely dangerous sport and why some of the records being broken seemed too good to be true. Doping in sports is normal, but freediving, physiologically speaking, is unique. You need a low heart rate and slow metabolismāstimulants are disadvantages. But the World Anti-Doping Agency doesnāt uses the same guidelines for what is considered doping for all sports. What we learn up top, beautifully told (clearly by someone who loves the sport) is that freediving is meditative. Lydia Gard explains how she felt the first time she did it, completely present and in tune with her body. 100 meters is considered a āspiritual depth,ā and record holders are now routinely diving to more than 120. This sport doesnāt rely on aggression, it relies on mindfulness. And what happens when youāre doing something death-defying on a drug thatās dumbing you down, allowing you to push further? You might die. At 120 meters, thereās very little margin for error. There has been a scandal brewing for too long, but now Lydia is getting people to talk. This isnāt just a doping story, because what even is doping in this sport? We donāt even know that part yet. So this story is darker and deeper and because itās about water and is well made / makes you feel like youāre right there, you can hear the splashing, it feels magical. Listen to Deep Water here.
How I discovered it: Press release
šChina is HOT in the news right now and I feel like every time I listen to something or read something Iām doing it because I feel I have to, and not because I want to. Face-Off: The U.S. vs China is a podcast hosted by Jane Perlez and made by Rowhome Productions that is explaining China-U.S. relations that goes deeper and to more interesting places than mainstream media, and gets a lot more personal and human, too. Itās a fascinating, beautiful listen. Jane was the foreign correspondent for The New York Times in Beijing for more than three decades and has worked in Pakistan, East Africa, Central Europe, Serbia, Kosovo, Indonesia. Sheās a serious and hardcore journalist. And she also has this warmth and curiosity that I am not hearing anywhere else, especially not in the bombastic headlines I see in mainstream media. Jane has pulled out her rolodex for this new season to talk to some of the most knowledgeable people in the space about almost dishy things about Xi Jinping, the insane reasons Chinese Gen Z have embraced āgarbage time,ā (it has to do with sports, weirdly enough!) soft power, and robots. (Producer Frank Zhou interviews a platinum blonde humanoid robot in Beijing.) One thing that stops me from reading up on more US-China news is that itās often reported with staleness, Face-Off isnāt stale. Itās for news junkies who want to get away from the headlines and hear what the mainstream media is leaving out, but also for people like me who might be intimidated to dive in (am I too woefully behind to even know what is going on?) Because Jane proves that good reporting and storytelling makes things insanely listenable. Listen to the first episode, āGeneration Burnout,ā here.
How I discovered it: Client
šI was speaking with the team from Snap Judgment about the most snappy snaps, the snappiest of Snap Judgment episodes and one of them suggested āDiamonds in the Sky,ā an episode about Rihannaās the 777 tour, when Rihanna performed seven shows all over the world in seven days to promote the 777 album ON a Boeing 777. Super fans and 150 journalists got to come along. It sounds like the kind of thing an out-of touch marketing team with too much money would conjure up (itās certainly what I would do for my podcasts if I had the money) and ended up being the original Fyre Fest, but on a plane. We all love a good disaster story to gawk at, this is a good one. Not only, short of water-boarding, did it sound torturous (they slept about ten hours the whole time and were semi-starved but had access to plenty of alcohol,) they didnāt get the access to Rihanna they thought theyād get. Nobody got to talk to her or see her the whole time. The weird thing is that these reporters were sent by their bosses to get good stuff, so they were both miserable but also worried they were about to be fired. (āEven if you want to go to sleep you canāt go to sleep because you have to stay up because you have to see whatās gonna happen because nothing is happening and you have to get something.ā) The good news? Snap Judgment talked to them for this audio documentary. The journalists might have not been getting the Riri content they wanted but they did get plenty of 777-Tour disaster content, which has to be better. Theyāre inherently good writers and observers! Theyāre funny and had great stories. Even weirder is that they came home with a bigger obsession with Rihanna and that theyād do it again. (āI thought I would have enough self possession and dignity to hate her afterwards but that was falseā¦ā āI admire her as my captor for what she did to me.ā) Something happens with this Australian reporter who kept annoying everyone with his harmonica (āwe all wanted to slice his hands offā) that I donāt want to spoil, youāre going to have to listen. Thereās a lesson here, somewhere, but Iām laughing too hard just thinking about it to figure it out. I had already listened to this one, but enjoyed every second of the re-listen. In fact, I went on to listen to something else (it was a total waste of time, DM if me you wanna know what Iām talking about) and then thought, ādang, podcasts are getting so much worse.ā But then I remembered that some are, but Snap Judgment is still this good. Sometimes I worry that this solid, long-running show gets forgotten or swept aside for flashy new things but you guys. Donāt forget to snappyity snap snap snap. Snap Judgment is the gold standard, itās been there for you all along. And if you havenāt listened in awhile, a treasure trove awaits. Listen to Diamonds in the Sky here.
How I discovered it: John Fecile
šArtists on Artists on Artists (AOAOA) is an improvised podcast where Kylie Brakeman, Jeremy Culhane, Angela Giarratana, and Patrick McDonald have pretentious roundtable conversations playing the roles of people in creative fields. Theyāll make fun of creatives of ALL types, from writers in the Pixar writerās room to Halloween candy designers to famous theater ghosts to hotshot hollywood realtors and the characters of the Kellogās cinematic universe. For the fourth year in a row, Kimia Behpoornia (Abbot Elementary, Hacks) swings by for a āMacyās Thanksgiving Day Parade Episode,ā playing the role of the Macyās Thanksgiving Day Paradeās creative team. Itās an episode I never miss. As the Macyās Thanksgiving Day Parade gets worseāmore and more corporate and capitalistic and branded and ruined by marketers, this episode gets better. Their characters are just getting more and more ridiculous yet more and more themselves, more real. Kimiaās character is a tiny hulk of a woman (the strongest woman who has ever worked the Macyās Day Parade) tasked to anchor all the floats and balloons by herself, and she takes her job extremely seriously. (This year sheās ācarrying the balloon for two,ā sheās pregnant! She inseminated herself.) They all take this job so seriously. The thing is, The Macyās Day Parade is already so unbelievably bad and ridiculous, some of the ideas seem like they could be legit or at least are so so close. And hearing them named in the āRapid Fire Float Sectionā at the end is what had me laughing out loud while I was walking down the street. āFirst up, Billy Eilish on the Corn Nut Extravaganza Bah-loon playing Apples to Apples with none other than Brittney Grinerā¦.I love that we got Brittney, I love that sheās back and safe and on a balloon.ā āUnder the sea, under the sea! Whoās scuba diving into the float parade? Itās Jelly Roll on a mission to bring Sea World back, thatās right it is the Blackfish-Was-a-Hoax float, paid by non other than Sea World and the good guys at Open AI.ā āYum yum yummy, here comes the fireworks people. Those people who make those tiny pop-its, those things you throw on the ground. Theyāre back in the game, with a barbed wire themed float featuring Cedric the Entertainer and Gabourey Sidibe.ā āBah bah bah, whatās that sound? Itās Fort Lauderdaleās Marching Band!...enough said, mic drop, period.ā God I really have to stop just quoting it, just listen to it. And picture, really picture the parade happening you really have to picture these floats that are so terrible, so believable. It reminds me that on Thursday the creators of My Brother, My Brother and Me and The Worst Idea of All Time will release their 11th annual Til Death Do Us Blart episode where they rewatch Paul Blart Mall Cop 2. Honestly this has become a pretty introspective exercise if youāve been listening along. A lot of change happens to people in 10 years. Oh! And Hug House does the same thing with 2019ās Cats for You Are Not the Jellicle Choice. Itās their 5th year. Listen to The 4th Annual Macyās Thanksgiving Day Parade Episode (with Kimia Behpoornia) here.
How I discovered it: Longtime subscriber
šWith all the Heavyweight episodes Iāve cried over, the latest one, Kevin, might be the best. Itās way up there. Itās brutal. Jonathan talks to Kevin, who had a cinematically terrible childhood, like Bicycle Thief-level of bad, full of moments seared into his brain that he shares in such vivid detail that they are now seared into mine. He tells one story about his mother moving away, making her 6 children draw straws for which unfortunate child would be left behind with their extremely mentally ill father, and Kevin believing that his mother made him choose the short straw on purpose. Hearing him describe his tears and how that has caused him to process his own childās tears is a poignant moment. He had two friends who kind of saved his life, or at least his sanity, during these hard years but one day they disappeared, and Jonathan set out to find them. Are they OK? Do they remember him? Spoiler alert, Jonathan finds them, though it wasnāt easy, and itās a really tender and life changing moment for these people. Because Kevin is such a strong storyteller, remembering specific moments and being able to describe them with incredible clarity, Jonathan can be in the background, letting Kevin do most of the work. Jonathan lets him go, knowing exactly when to insert himself. This episode had all the pieces. Heart-wrenching sadness, real closure to be made, a wonderful storyteller and Jonathan at his best. And a resolution that isnāt so easy to explain. Listen to ā#64 Kevinā here.
How I discovered it: Subscriber
šI donāt get to write about The Daily Zeitgeist that much, which is weird because I listen every day, sometimes twice. (Some days, thereās a morning and evening episode.) I can remember where I was when I was listening to the first episode, I had been waiting. I knew Jack OāBrienās stuff from Cracked and was eager to hear from his new cohost Miles Gray. The Daily Zeitgeist is a news show with comedian guests, they talk about anything in the zeitgeist from ICE raids to the newest Taco Bell menu item yes it can be jarring. There are years-long inside jokes and a structure you have to be used to, I think, to really understand and love. What Iām saying is, donāt listen to one episode and give up. Arielle and I always tell people they have to listen for 300 episodes before they know whether or not they will like it. (This is also one of the only shows that Arielle and I both like, we have very different taste.) And def donāt listen to a Monday or evening episode first, those arenāt the normal ones. In fact you know what? Donāt listen without talking to me first. Iāll tell you where to begin. Anyhoo after years of almost never changing format they are starting a spinoff series called āThe Iconograph,ā a show about icons, people who exist in our zeitgeist but we may not know why. Like, they arenāt in headlines but everyone knows them and like 5 key random things about them that are probably untrue. Jackās metric for this is whether or not people would know who you are if you dressed as them for Halloween. And a recurring question he wants to ask about them is āif this person existed in our reality today, how likely would they be in the Epstein logs?ā Episode one: Albert Einstein. Jack, Miles and Michael Swaim (this weekās guest) are the only people I really want to hear talking about Albert Einstein, I usually get pretty bored even hearing Einsteinās name. But thatās because we just get told the same stories, we see that same poster, we hear the same quotes. But there are stories more interesting than the ones weāve heard a million times, the quotes are often mis-attributed, andā¦ does anyone really know the story behind that iconic tongue-sticking-out poster? Once those questions are out of the way we get to get some deeper thinking about this deep thinker. What made him who he was? Why has his image stuck with us, of all people? What life events drove him to his incredible discoveries? Iām always trying to find an episode to send people of The Daily Zeitgeist to really hook them, and as Iāve mentioned itās hard. But this is a rare (extremely research-heavy) standalone episode and you could listen to, not feel lost, laugh your ass off, actually learn things, and get a general sense of the showās vibe. Listen to Icon Deep Dive #1: Albert Einstein here.
How I discovered it: I listen to The Daily Zeitgeist every day
šDigās season three is here in full, a four-part, not-over-yet investigation about twin teacher/coaches, Ronnie and Donnie Stoner, who have been indicted on more than 50 charges related to hard-to-read-about child sex abuse allegations that go back decades, and include one of the menās daughters. What Jess Clark brings us is an autopsy of this complete disaster that exposes multiple facepalm-inducing reasons these girls slipped through the cracks. A constant phrase you hear Jess say is āin cases of sexual assault itās best to __(insert correct thing to do)__ but thatās not what happened here.ā It feels like this case is falling down a set of stairs, getting slammed with each fall. Adult after adult letting these girls down. Itās RAGEY YOU GUYS. Jess talks to the women who are coming forward after all these years, but also the people who ignored all the signs that something was wrong and now regret it. Whatās disheartening is that the girls werenāt silent when it was happening, they just werenāt believed. They were ostracized. So they spoke up, but nobody else did. Would it have made a difference? Ronnie and Donnie kept failing up, getting awards and raises, keeping their salaries, moving between schools and districts. Even with numerous and public allegations against both brothers and criminal charges against Donnie they were still employed by the public schools, reporting to work and collecting their full tax payer-funded salary and benefits. [Ed note: I was so furious typing this I was jamming my fingers on the keyboard so much that none of my typing was originally legible.] There is a strength in the voices of the women coming forward but that doesnāt feel right, either. Their non-chalance is unnerving. Why arenāt a group of Black women mad that theyāve been abused and ignored for years and the rest of us are just finally catching up? These women were forced to deal with the trauma themselves for so long, have had to figure it all out, and are pretty tired. The worst part is, as Jess points out, this is a disastrous story but it is by no means a rare one. This series has great reporting, great tape, and is making a difference. And itās 4-parts, not torturing you to death with extra stretched-out stuff. Every second of it counts. Listen to the third season of Dig here but make sure youāre in an OK place, mentally, to do it.
How I discovered it: Subscriber, then also got a pitch letter
šI donāt know how you would categorize The Dream anymore, Jane Marie is talking to smart people about things that suck, but not in a complainey way. All the conversations about MLMs, private equity, the fucked up ways we buy gems, etc, will just make you see the world with a sharper lens. Jane Marie is the anti-Pollyanna, and reallyā¦did Pollyanna really get anything done other than make people smile and appreciate the sun and see the positive side of everything? I donāt remember, she canāt have. I mean, we need Pollyannas and Jane Marie in this world. We need them both. The latest episode, with Dr. Mara Einstein (author of the book Hoodwinked: How Marketers Use the Same Tactics as Cults and host of the podcast Hoodwinked,) was on one of my favorite subjects, marketing, and how cult-like it is. Mara talks about the structure and language that makes it so. Words like āfunnelā and āconversion,ā āmarketing evangelists.ā Itās so tricky because itās like, ew. Gross. But also, as a marketer, my clients come to me wanting to know about conversion rates. I loved hearing Mara talk about how much editorial has changed in the last 20 years. Editorial and advertising used to be separate. If we were influenced by an advertiser in Parenting magazine (my first job) we had to be really clear about that. Today, itās all on US to figure out if something or organic or paid, and unfortunately we are all stupid. We repost without reading (those marketing evangelists are often wrong but they sure are loud, arenāt they?) They love rage bait, which is why Joe Rogan has nazis on his podcast and why Trump is president. Again. I am a marketer. I hate marketing. My clients would say they hate marketing, but they pay me to do it. They pay me to use those creepy cult-like tactics. We donāt use the word āfunnelā at Tink because that word sounds bad in our mouths, but we are technically doing it. And here we are, listening to a podcast episode telling us how the line has blurred between editorial and advertising to hear, with no buffer, a host-read ad for Quince. We learn that when Quince boxes arrive at Jane Marieās house her and her daughter sing, āMerry Quincemas!ā Iām fully aware of how that happenedāJane Marie isnāt making episode-specific ads. To get around this problem, some podcasters might just choose to not run a Quince ad. How is a podcaster supposed to pay the bills again? Anyhoo, resistance is futile. Good to know. Right? Listen to Hoodwinkers Abound here.
How I discovered it: Immediately subscribed, Arielle texted me about it, and weirdly enough I was talking to Mara earlier in the week about her podcast Hoodwinked.
šRemember Empire City and how insanely good it was, and how that was mostly because of Chenjerai Kumanyika? Chenjerai has a new show with Rowhome, Unruly Subjects, which blends politics, culture, tons of personality from Chenjerai, and fun/lively production from Rowhome. Immediately sounds like nothing else. (Go listen to the first 5 minutes, just do it.) The first episode is an interview with Roy Wood Jr. about his book Man of Many Fathers. Roy talks about his work in Cop City and The Daily Show and comedy and politics. You get to hear a Roy Wood Jr. in a way you havenāt heard him before. But this somewhat standard (but great) interview is sandwiched between a question for us allāhow do you negotiate your love life with the struggle (thereās a voice mail for you to call, Chenjerai really wants to know)āan āUnserious News Sectionā with an Unserious News Consultant who updates us on the āquarter zip momentā and an adorable ice cream adventure with Chenjeraiās daughter thatās accompanied by a call to action. This show is seriously newsy but itās also a more interesting, more fun, more joyful way to know about whatās going on in the world. The cover art is gorgeous. Listen to The Truth Behind The Joke: Roy Wood Jr. on Comedy and Survival here.
How I discovered it: Alex from Rowhome texted me
Love This Ends at Prom! What a great q&a :)